St Johnstone's football stadium in Perth was a horribly cold venue and was replaced several years ago by the SECC in Glasgow. The SSE Hydro arena has been used since 2014.
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Regional Convention Stat. from the UK
by freddo inanother fantastic increase i mean stagnation for the jborg chariot .... cardiff, wales, uk convention july 27-29th 2018. attendances 3500/3600 (friday) - 4150 (sunday) approx.. baptisms - wait for it ... drumroll ... 10..
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Paranoia at Britain Branch?
by The Fall Guy ini just 'phoned britain branch and asked to speak to someone in the public information department.
it looks like the days of questioning the branch over the 'phone are a thing of the past.. here is the substance of my conversation with the sister who answered the telephone:.
operator: "what sort of information, please - is it a legal question or an accounting or construction question?".
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The Fall Guy
I just 'phoned Britain Branch and asked to speak to someone in the Public Information Department.
It looks like the days of questioning the Branch over the 'phone are a thing of the past.
Here is the substance of my conversation with the sister who answered the telephone:
Operator: "What sort of information, please - is it a legal question or an accounting or construction question?"
Me: No, it's a question about WATCHTOWER INTERNATIONAL. I just wanted some information about it.
Operator: Watchtower International???? We have a Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of Britain, is that what you mean?
Me: No. It sounds as if you haven't heard of this organization either. I found it on the U.S. Dept. of State web site. https://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/2017/eap/280832.htm
Operator: OK, probably the best thing you could do is drop us a line at the address on our web site, because we are all volunteers here and we don't have people to answer questions over the 'phone. Thank you for your call.
Me: So you've never heard of this organization yourself?
Operator: Hmmm............ yeah........................so thank you for your call. That's how to go about it.
Me: Can you answer that question - have you not heard of this organization?
Operator: Hmmm........yes...........I'm sorry, I'm not answering any questions. I'm not a spokesman, I'm just a switchboard operator. Thank you. Goodbye.
Even Bethelite mushrooms are being kept in the dark - as well as being fed the bovine excrement!
Maybe someone in the USA could get some info by 'phoning the HQ.
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Great news!
by Half banana init's a case of two down and one to go.
my darling daughter has announced to the extended family that she has left jehovah's witnesses!
deep joy!.
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The Fall Guy
Excellent result for you both! Hope she has a long and happy cult-free life.
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Regional Convention Stat. from the UK
by freddo inanother fantastic increase i mean stagnation for the jborg chariot .... cardiff, wales, uk convention july 27-29th 2018. attendances 3500/3600 (friday) - 4150 (sunday) approx.. baptisms - wait for it ... drumroll ... 10..
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The Fall Guy
Northern Ireland & Republic of Ireland: have I read the cult's website correctly that all JW's over there have to go to Liverpool?
I thought ROI had its own convention in Dublin.
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Regional Convention Stat. from the UK
by freddo inanother fantastic increase i mean stagnation for the jborg chariot .... cardiff, wales, uk convention july 27-29th 2018. attendances 3500/3600 (friday) - 4150 (sunday) approx.. baptisms - wait for it ... drumroll ... 10..
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The Fall Guy
I heard the baptism figure for Glasgow convention (JW population of Scotland attends this one) was 26. Awaiting confirmation.
Effectively, it's a national convention, not a regional one.
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My brain will explode
by Alex Bogdanov ini am so tired to talk to jws that i know.
i think one day i will become rude and ingore them and avoid them.
every conversation ends like this-.
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The Fall Guy
Ask any JW if the Catholic church's practice of voluntarily confessing to one priest is unscriptural.
They'll automatically want to say 'yes.'
Then ask them why J.W.'s are compelled to confess their serious sins to three elders? (scriptural backing?)
Matthew 18:15-17 says nothing about elders being involved when someone commits a serious sin.
In fact, Jesus explicitly stated that if a serious sin has been witnessed by someone, the matter should be resolved by the sinner and the witness. No one else was to be involved. Jesus never said anything about Christians having to confess to elders. (verse 16 is referring to other witnesses of the sin - not witnesses of the accusation)
Get them to read Matthew 18:17 & 1 Timothy 5:20, and then ask them, "So exactly who did Jesus & Paul say were to be informed of an unrepentant person's sin?" (obviously not just the kangaroo court!)
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On the reliability of the Watchtower
by Sergey Antonov inhello!
could you give a link to the articles of the watchtower society, where they claim that information from the faithful and prudent slave comes from god and jesus christ.
and also, that magazines publish not people's thoughts, but god?.
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w10 7/15 p. 23 par. 10 - ...."holy spirit helps responsible representatives of “the faithful and discreet slave” at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood."
In other words, the alleged faithful slave is not discerning deep truths - their representatives (helpers) are apparently fulfilling Matthew 24:45, by proxy. :)
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On the reliability of the Watchtower
by Sergey Antonov inhello!
could you give a link to the articles of the watchtower society, where they claim that information from the faithful and prudent slave comes from god and jesus christ.
and also, that magazines publish not people's thoughts, but god?.
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The Fall Guy
Some connected statements:
w56 6/1 p. 346 par. 11 - Therefore the slave’s will is Jehovah’s will. Rebellion against the slave is rebellion against God.
w57 6/15 p. 370 par. 7 - It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the “slave” as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision.
w83 1/15 p. 27 par. 20 - Would we know the way of the truth if it had not been for guidance from the organization? Really, can we get along without the direction of God’s organization?” No, we cannot!
w01 8/1 p. 14 par. 8 - a mature Christian must not...harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by......“the faithful and discreet slave.”
w10 7/15 p. 23 par. 10 - holy spirit helps responsible representatives of “the faithful and discreet slave” at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood.
w10 9/15 p. 8 par. 7 - Without the assistance of “the faithful and discreet slave,” we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God’s Word nor know how to apply it.
w06 9/1 p. 28 par. 5 - Hence, we are required to pray in Jesus’ name, recognizing Jesus as the sole channel through which God’s blessings are extended to all mankind.
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Things which must shortly take place!
by PJ Delaney inthings that must shortly take place... the true understanding of the “generation” mentioned at matthew 24:34 may soon be revealed!.
please watch the one minute youtube video and read the explanation in the videos description.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3i81uocm4k.
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The Fall Guy
LOL Just came across this;
w94 2/15 p. 20 - “What Jesus spoke of as “great tribulation” and “a tribulation” in its first application (Jesus was so wrong in claiming it would never occur again!!!!) was the destruction of the Jewish system. But in verses that apply only to our day, he used the definite article “the,” saying “the tribulation.” (Matthew 24:21, 29; Mark 13:19, 24) Revelation 7:14 termed this future event “the great tribulation,” literally “the tribulation the great.””
JW's - Is this 'future' GT the same one spoken of earlier (in context) at Revelation 2:22, or as the WTBTS teaches, the one described at Matthew 24:21 which Jesus promised would never be repeated? Use your perceptive powers.
Tell a lie often enough and it'll be accepted as truth!
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The great 1914 turn around
by Sour Grapes ini must say there is no other religion in modern times that has lied more to their cult followers than the watchtower company and no more brain dead, gullible cult members than the jdubs.. just three examples.
when russel was in charge 1914 was prophesied to be the end of the system of things with armageddon and the earthly paradise.
that didn't happen and poof now 1914 was not the end, oh no, it was the beginning of the end.. the second example, the generation that saw 1914 would not pass away before the end came, which meant in all jdubs minds that paradise had to be here in the late 1990's.
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The Fall Guy
At 17 mins the fear & terror strategy is introduced to warn JW's to keep doing more and never miss any meetings.
Anyone who is not part of
the cult"God's organization" is going to be toast!